…He's not going to be making a deal with Ukraine in any form or fashion as long as Zalinsky has a future uh as Ukraine's

…There was a little bit of a diplomatic spat in Turkey where Zalinsky thought he was going to be meeting with President Putin and maybe hash out a deal in Turkey. That did not happen. Uh…

…So the next meeting might actually take place between Zalinsky and Putin, of course, with the United States being involved as well. So of course, we don't want to be too overly optimistic on this…

…For instance, President Trump met with Ukrainian leader Zalinski at the Pope's funeral and American diplomat Steve Woodco has been taking part in various peace talks and uh negotiation efforts in Moscow over the past…