PODCAST!!! Post Trial Thoughts and Observations

[Music] hello again everyone and welcome back to the underground so today we've got a sort of random podcast on some just general thoughts observations and opinions surrounding this minneapolis situation and the shahvan trial and the outcome from it and all that stuff so we wanted to make a podcast about this today because well for one we've been getting a decent amount of dms and questions and comments about it but also because i think that the main sort of lessons that we learned and the key takeaways from us from the trial are not necessarily what most people seem to be concluding so we've got some sort of unique thoughts on the situation and we thought we would share them today um so jumping right into it as far as thoughts in the trial um i hate to disappoint um but we do get a lot of questions or have over the past 24 hours or so i've gotten a lot of questions asking us what we think of the situation and at least for me i don't really have that many thoughts worth sharing on the trial itself other than i think that based on the whirlwind of violence and outright false information from all sides that sort of spun out of control last summer i think that it was always going to b whirlwind of violence and outright false information from all sides that sort of spun out of control last summer i think that it was always going to be impossible for him to have a quote unquote fair trial if you want to call it that so there's that none of us here were on that jury and i really didn't follow the case myself personally so i don't have an opinion on whether or not shavon was guilty or not guilty but what is completely unacceptable and what we can plainly see from the outside is the external influence in this case and not just for javan but for other cases as well politicians up to and including the president of the united states tried to intimidate and influence this trial since the moment that chavin was first charged last year and then during the freaking jury deliberations the president of the united states couldn't hold his wad and had to make a statement that pretty much guarantees that not only will shaving easily get an appeal but he will almost certainly win it in a few years when the mob isn't watching anymore and then you have other politicians saying that even though he was found guilty on all accounts somehow that's not good enough and like he should be and then you have other politicians saying that even though he was found guilty on all accounts somehow that's not good enough and like he should be extra guilty or something but this we knew the mob which is increasingly including senior federal governmental officials and agencies a very important thing to make note of the mob would not have been satisfied unless they could have dragged him out of the court and killed him in the street anything less than that and the mob would be less dissatisfied as they currently are now but we'll come back to that in a minute what we expect to see moving forward is quite wide ranging but in classic totalitarian fashion i would expect federal agencies to target minneapolis police department and other law enforcement officials in the area the federal regime is really all about kicking someone when they are down whether it's impeaching a man who is no longer president or is increasing troop deployments after the manufactured threat is over anyway the executive branch and the majority of congress and the supreme court are all about total control now it's not enough that the mob got what they wanted they have to continue to beat the dead horse so w the supreme court are all about total control now it's not enough that the mob got what they wanted they have to continue to beat the dead horse so we will fully expect the doj to investigate in heavy air quotes the minneapolis police department and probably withdraw their federal funding to be honest like we mentioned last year the mob is doing everything they possibly can to make sure that not a single reasonable and rational person remains on the police force not just in minneapolis but anywhere they have completely eliminated any chance they had at a peaceful solution and now that the federal government has picked aside or at least feels the need to be two-faced and pick a side while being protected by the police the concept of mob rule will continue to grow at least up until the point that that rage gets turned onto the federal regime or until the mob outlives its usefulness to the regime that's when things will make a sharp turn as far as the actual tracking situation and the sort of situation post verdict in minneapolis specifically i will be the first to admit that we missed the mark on that one we were fully expecting that the immense amount of funding and the extremely h ically i will be the first to admit that we missed the mark on that one we were fully expecting that the immense amount of funding and the extremely high political interventions would have resulted in rioting no matter what the verdict was especially considering that blm slash antifa spent a lot of money on signs that encouraged rioting despite the verdict but for the most part the mob spent the evening celebrating and partying in the streets last night but we've got to be aware that this doesn't mean that there won't be riots in minneapolis over the next few days or moving into the future every liberal politician up to and including the president has done everything they possibly can to convey that they are giving the green light for rioting to occur as long as it doesn't personally affect them the only way that i can see this approval getting any clearer is if they came out and openly encouraged people to riot as several congresswomen have already done so once this idea sinks in we'll see rioting and looting again i should also note that i think that last night we underestimated the impact of the weather even prior to the verdict being read there there weren't that many people in that i think that last night we underestimated the impact of the weather even prior to the verdict being read there there weren't that many people in the street certainly not as many as we were expecting which is probably due to the chile temperature or other factors and atmospherics that we can't know because we weren't there and as far as lessons learned for me there are several key takeaways from this event and unfortunately none of them are particularly positive and in true as to underground fashion the lessons that we learn are not particularly about the event itself like i said personally i don't really care about the trial itself it has been sensationalized all year by every single group out there to make their political point by left and right alike so i'm not even going to go down the road on george floyd or derek chavin or the case itself it's pointless to muse on these sort of things now what is alarming to me is that the remarks made by politicians in a direct attempt to incite violence and threaten intimidate and bully the jury shows that our entire system of checks and balances is hanging on by a thread if it hasn't already been completely obliterated yet anyone who he jury shows that our entire system of checks and balances is hanging on by a thread if it hasn't already been completely obliterated yet anyone who has been familiar with our justice systems in this country know that the entire system is broken from the ground up the court of public opinion is now the actual court and not in a jury of your pure sort of way but in a kangaroo court kind of way and the shaman trial aside this is a huge problem and has serious implications for the way that we move forward in trying to fix the problems in our world politicians bullying and outright influencing court decisions is never a good thing but more importantly it's a hallmark of a collapsing governmental system when maxine waters can get a police escort to the middle of a crowd and encourage rioting if they don't get their way and not have anything happen to her that's not good like it would have been a less bad of a situation if she had said what she said and congress came back and censored her or removed her from important committees which is a big one or powerful players in her home district made her sweat a little bit with you know political donations that would have made a difference that big one or powerful players in her home district made her sweat a little bit with you know political donations that would have made a difference that might have checked and balanced her extremist rhetoric but no not only was nothing done but the motion to censure her has failed like it was a futile effort anyway so you have a career politician that can endorse a riot and get rewarded for it because there is absolutely zero opposition in congress no matter what feeble attempt congressional republicans put up there really isn't any strong opposition in anything that matters in the executive branch well the executive branch of government is doing everything it can to encourage division so that hundreds of thousands of troops can be deployed to make the nation look like washington dc does right now but i guess at the end of the day the frustrating thing for us is the absolute barren land that is the field of critical thinking and this is probably where we're going to lose a lot of people if we haven't already like we all have said many times before we can only rephrase the same idea so many times before we have to start raising our voice in an attempt to help people understand our poi imes before we can only rephrase the same idea so many times before we have to start raising our voice in an attempt to help people understand our point of view it's okay if people disagree like i think that gets misconstrued a lot of times but it seems like a lot of the times people aren't quite picking up what we're putting down so if this comes off as a rant i'm sorry but it's something that we think is a serious topic that we have to fix like right now the biggest problems that we face right now aren't a totalitarian government or tyrannical congress or a kangaroo supreme court these problems are definitely a sign of a troubled state that's true but they are nothing compared to the fight amongst ourselves the citizens of this great nation every single day we have to talk someone down from a ledge which is perfectly fine if that's what we're meant to do that's what we're meant to do and people are really scared and angry right now and even people that were reasonable rational people last year right now are fuming at what's happening around the nation and we get it all of us really do we wouldn't even be here at the s2 underground if we didn't feel like it was our duty to step up g around the nation and we get it all of us really do we wouldn't even be here at the s2 underground if we didn't feel like it was our duty to step up and contribute to the betterment of our nation however we have really got to get smart this is really killing us here like whenever we scroll around the internet and find people screaming about this or about that or about tyranny or authoritarianism or whatever my first thought is if you really believed that our government is so evil or that the mob is so evil you would shut up and realize that screaming about it is only making yourself a target like all of the boogaloo boys that are somehow still out there going to protests and whatnot let me say this if you still wholeheartedly and openly support that movement that tells me that you do not fully understand the severity of the situation and that i cannot trust you with anything significant because you're not ready to play with the big boys it was fine when it was just a meme or a loose sort of political statement that's that's fine but right now if you go to a protest with the hawaiian shirt gang after everything that's happened i'm not going to go out of my way to risk my neck for right now if you go to a protest with the hawaiian shirt gang after everything that's happened i'm not going to go out of my way to risk my neck for someone who is assuming an unacceptable amount of risk not to mention being more of a liability than an asset if you cannot take care of yourself and realize that your emotional outburst now limits your options later when things get really bad this shows me that you care more about an emotional response than a strategic one hell even on our own platforms we occasionally see people foaming at the mouth filled with rage for the situation that we're faced with but here's the thing if a person cannot control their temper online where everything is logged and nothing is secure that signals to us that again this person is playing t-ball when we need to be playing in a world series level if we are to ever have a chance at fixing the problems we are faced with and for us this kind of stuff gets disheartening really quickly because we see the data like we hop on social media and make a post on like instagram or something that kind of sort of points the finger at liberals and we get hundreds of likes and dozens of comments but when we post some ke instagram or something that kind of sort of points the finger at liberals and we get hundreds of likes and dozens of comments but when we post something like a tutorial giving people the keys to the castle and tools for success it's crickets and yeah i get it it's a lot easier to tap like than it is to actually watch a video or listen to a podcast the point is it's not going to be the flashy stuff that gets us out of this mess it's going to be the boring stuff i know i keep harping on this one i realize i feel like i say it more often than not but everyone loves to strap on a play carrier or watch a dozen videos on youtube before they pick out the right one and try to color match pouches and create an aesthetic with a vintage camo or something which is perfectly fine like i do that stuff myself but it seems like a lot of people put far less effort into the actual plates inside the carrier it's almost comical and the same goes for information in our world as well a lot of people seem to be obsessed with guerrilla warfare like the instant civil unrest kicks off they're gonna go all red dawn or rambo in the woods we get so many questions about that everyone wants to read books abou stant civil unrest kicks off they're gonna go all red dawn or rambo in the woods we get so many questions about that everyone wants to read books about how to build ieds but no one seems particularly interested in reading about how ho chi minh came to power everyone seems to be all too interested in stuff like the world war ii resistance movement in yugoslavia which is widely considered to be one of the most effective resistance movements during the war with the partisans beating the nazis and running them out of their homeland and becoming a free society until a resistance leader called tito decided that this freedom stuff is for the birds and now that the nazis are out we need this thing called communism yes that's right people are all too happy to look at the somewhat romanticized parts of resistance but very quick to overlook one of the longest lasting dictatorships that somehow people still really don't know about because it isn't romantic we focus on things like the french resistance and daring raids or spies dropped by parachute into hostile territory or the special operations executive or the american office of strategic services air dropping supplies to rebels in the hills e into hostile territory or the special operations executive or the american office of strategic services air dropping supplies to rebels in the hills but we completely gloss over the fact that the soe was almost completely shut down because french rebel groups kept using the air dropped weapons to kill other rebels instead of the occupying nazis the tragic and morbidly comical reality of the time was that the overwhelming majority of secret squirrels and case officers during world war ii were simply trying to keep their guerrilla forces from killing each other the unfortunate truth is that in the majority of cases james bond did not have a license to kill so much as an accounting degree now granted the latter part of the 20th century was the birth of modern intelligence operations and as such we should absolutely study these things and the fact that a lot of this history is fascinating and exhilarating to read just makes it all the more enjoyable to learn but we cannot get our priorities crossed from real life operatives like t lawrence and nancy wake to christopher lee and fitzroy mclean the cool stuff more often than not took a back seat to just trying to make sure their forces nce and nancy wake to christopher lee and fitzroy mclean the cool stuff more often than not took a back seat to just trying to make sure their forces didn't kill each other which is a sentiment that we are starting to see in the information world today americans love an underdog story because it's the story of us but we have to learn from the mistakes of the past and if we do not even know the past we have no hope for changing the future but to those that are left oh we see you despite all of this ranting and all of our sometimes contradictory but constantly changing thoughts on things the actions of the lurker do not go unnoticed by us we see the random blog poster or the retail cashier or the instagram memer or the neighbor or the youtube creator that isn't really saying much on the surface but is casually making moves of their own or the unknown peeps on the internet that are somehow still causing the billionaires in the world to lose a lot of money or the people that are engaging a little bit of economic warfare of their own by choosing what they buy so for those of you out there who hear us and are doing the same stuff that we're doing know that you're not alone and to those o oosing what they buy so for those of you out there who hear us and are doing the same stuff that we're doing know that you're not alone and to those of you that have gotten into a place and taken enough precautions that you feel safe in engaging or teaching or even just talking about these issues we really appreciate it a lot especially if these interactions take place in the real world where it can have the most impact and with that let's continue to do good things currently there has never been a harder time to make friends in the world but right now friends have never been more crucial so with that we will see you guys next time always remember to stay safe make good decisions and fight in the shade [Music] [Music] hurry so you