Religion Under Tyranny: How to Practice Religion in 2021

hello again everyone and welcome back to the underground so today we have a sort of special seasonal episode for you uh in which we're going to talk about some considerations uh for conducting religious activities or practicing your religion under a tyrannical or oppressive system so uh right up front i just want to say that this is the i think eighth time we're recording this so forgive us if things don't quite match up because this is a very very hot topic a very very hot topic for a lot of people especially as we move forward into the height of the holiday season for 2020 and we have to realize that the the reason that we're talking about this is is really two-fold and the first reason that we're talking about this is that a lot of the coveted lockdown procedures or whatever we're calling those uh lockdowns now would be you know tyrannical oppressive maneuvers or legitimate you know medical things whatever you want to call it you have to realize that most of these coveted lockdown procedures are in direct conflict with the nature of religion so the nature of the coveted lockdowns and the nature of religion itself they're at odds with each other so even if you didn't have a tyran f religion so the nature of the coveted lockdowns and the nature of religion itself they're at odds with each other so even if you didn't have a tyrannical system you know that's a particularly tyrannical system that's trying to lock things down you know medicine isn't always at odds with religion right um but we have to realize that now a lot of tyrants are taking advantage of that so the nature of these code lockdowns you know in a sort of anti-societal lockdown procedure and you know over on this corner you've got you know your church or your religious activity which is a very community based a very person based very person to person very personal thing for a lot of people when you sort of put those two in the same arena they there tends to be a lot of conflict there and then also like i mentioned we have a so purely nefarious like there's no ifans or busts there's a pure nefarious activity going on when it comes to religion in a lot of areas particularly places like either texas or new york where politicians are ordering police officers to arrest people for conducting religious activities because those religious activities either defy some kind of coveted thing or just because ficers to arrest people for conducting religious activities because those religious activities either defy some kind of coveted thing or just because they don't like them so you know even though the stuff we're going to be talking about today is mostly worst case scenario we also wanted to make this video survivable for the future so even though as we move forward into the 2020 holiday season you know the height of that we also wanted to point out that this video is meant to last for multiple years so even though we don't live entirely in a sort of chinese communist lockdown on religion situation here in america in 2020 2021 might be different thus the video right so we also wanted to point out that like i mentioned when people think of religious persecution they tend to think of things like you know the pilgrims coming over from europe even though that's not necessarily a perfect story that's what people tend to think of they don't necessarily think of anything modern and that's what we're coming at it from today we're coming at it from the modern perspective you know chinese religious persecution persecution of our religious activities in europe uh things like that um and as a re rom the modern perspective you know chinese religious persecution persecution of our religious activities in europe uh things like that um and as a result we wanted to once again point out that it's not our job to tell anyone what to do when it comes to their religion that's just not only is it none of our business but no one should be doing that um and you know like i mentioned we have filmed this a lot of times and the reason for that is it's very difficult to word things in such a way that isn't offensive or you know crass or some something wrong with it just doesn't quite sound right i can't tell you how many i've spent about six hours filming this so far and it's you know every time i'll just say something that doesn't sound right or it's just like man i you know that that did not come out right so forgive us if that's what happens we also wanted to point out that the writers that gave me uh the talking points for this episode today are not religious people and we did that on purpose we wanted people to write this from a non-religious perspective because of their ability to look from the outside in right so whether or not we have staff here that's extremely religious some peop gious perspective because of their ability to look from the outside in right so whether or not we have staff here that's extremely religious some people you know that are atheists or agnostic or whatever you want to call it and so we we had a think tank together and we wanted to write this from the perspective of someone who is not involved in really any organized religion right now but has knowledge of it right so if we don't get things necessarily quite right please forgive us we're not intending to be offensive or or anything bad we're just trying to come at this from an analytical standpoint so that should you know help out i'm sure that the comment section will blow up but we wanted to make it very very clear as with a lot of our stuff that tends to be inflammatory we have to spend a few minutes at the beginning talking about why we're coming at this and you know just to kind of make sure that everybody knows we're coming at this from a purely good and honest you know perspective so with that out of the way let's jump right into the first category and that is undercover agents so one of the things that has happened um for many many years now is people particularly law enforcem the first category and that is undercover agents so one of the things that has happened um for many many years now is people particularly law enforcement but other groups as well just the cases we have for law enforcement um groups or people uh infiltrating a religious activity in order to surveil it or conduct some kind of intelligence gathering and the example we have here on the slide is a screenshot from a video that was taken i can't remember some time ago it's not labeled here for me of three new york police officers i don't know if they were sheriffs or if they were nypd but these three guys decided that it would be a good idea to conduct a surveillance operation following i think it was the summer of 2020 actually because they were conducting surveillance of protest activity in a predominantly jewish community as a result of the george floyd protests earlier this year and they decided to go about doing that by dressing up in traditional jewish clothing they were wearing you know i forget the names but they were wearing traditional hats they had traditional jewish hairstyles they were they looked um to an outsider who is not jewish they looked like you know jewish people of onal hats they had traditional jewish hairstyles they were they looked um to an outsider who is not jewish they looked like you know jewish people of the jewish faith uh coming or going you know from the synagogue or something like that they blended in to the crowd however and this points to one of the first bullet points here is that generally speaking outside infiltrators are extremely easy to identify when it comes to like surveillance so when this video showed up on the internet people of the jew people in that jewish community and really every jewish community that we saw there were tens of thousands of comments just slamming these guys they were wearing you know the wrong sized hats they were the reason they got noticed in the first place is that they were using cell phones on the sabbath which is not permitted in the jewish faith so they made a huge mistake there and that got attention put on them and then people started looking at you know some of their other clothing and some of the ways they were acting and it was just like they were sticking out like sore thumbs to people of the jewish faith so um that's something that's kind of easy one of the undercover agents sort of they were sticking out like sore thumbs to people of the jewish faith so um that's something that's kind of easy one of the undercover agents sort of thing is easy to get out of the way uh right to start with um now it must also be noted that the nature of religion in most religions on earth tends to be very altruistic in nature you know people it's most religion had teaches tenants of of being good you know helping your neighbor things like that so some people will want to be that good-natured person and let in uh someone to a religious activity that is obviously an infiltrator right so we have that going on but we also have to realize that you don't want to be paranoid to the point to where your you know congregation or parishioners or whoever um start being paranoid towards one another right that's not something that we want but we did want to point out that you know law enforcement has routinely uh posed as religious personnel um when it comes to surveillance so that is definitely a thing to watch out for um so yeah that that's the news article that shows that they were caught using the cell phone uh on the the shabbat or the sabbath and then another thing to think about is the e news article that shows that they were caught using the cell phone uh on the the shabbat or the sabbath and then another thing to think about is the concept of informant neighbors so a lot of people nowadays are being taught by their government or their politicians to call in or report religious activities or really any like gathering activities they disguise it as gatherings so for instance you know the governor of oregon the governor of new york a lot of these governors are setting up either hotlines so that people can snitch on each other or things like that and thankfully the internet has been quite hostile to this idea but even though people have quit you know were quick to jump to like oh you know some karen you know calls in a you know a party or something like that we have to realize that today it may be a joke today it may not be a thing that we take seriously but tomorrow it could be a security threat so your karen neighbor or for lack of a better a less offensive term to people who are actually named karen out there um someone who is who is calling in these you know reporting they're sitting at their window with their phone in their hand you know calling the police to meone who is who is calling in these you know reporting they're sitting at their window with their phone in their hand you know calling the police to report their neighbor for walking their dog or something people who do that um they could very well be a security threat tomorrow so um we also have to remember that like i said on the previous slide that you know most major religions teach this sort of love thy neighbor sentiment right but this feeling is most certainly often more often than not not mutual when it comes to these coveted things so just remember that even though you want to be a kind person to someone else they know they may not be a kind person to you and when it comes to that someone not being kind could result in your door getting kicked in so um we have to realize that this is you know something apart from religion that the social engineering that governments have done on people as part of this covet thing that social engineering has worked it has been very effective because we have changed our culture in less than a year's time and there haven't really been any congressional laws telling people to do it it's all been either executive orders or just federal recomme year's time and there haven't really been any congressional laws telling people to do it it's all been either executive orders or just federal recommendations right so so we have to remember that even though we may have the best intentions for people and that we may want people to be uh you know safe and secure and things like that others may not so uh just keep that in mind and then another thing that is very contentious now and this slide is one of the main reasons why we've recorded this so many times is because i haven't found a good way to say this i'm just going to come out and say it is that a lot of religious activities particularly churches that have a hierarchical structure such as catholicism right you know have different layers of authority within the church a lot of these religious structures have been very tyrannical towards their own people people of their own faith right so the leadership of many religious institutions are quite frankly willing collaborators of infringements on their own religion right i can't tell you how many articles i have read that state that all these covet procedures are not persecution they are not persecution they're not infringing on your how many articles i have read that state that all these covet procedures are not persecution they are not persecution they're not infringing on your religious freedoms whatsoever but that's not true like this is just blanket propaganda that's put out by the church to infringe on itself which none of us here quite understand right and we have to realize that since that's the case this division right you have people that want to get together in a you know a small group or a group of like maybe 100 or so you know like most churches in the united states or synagogues or mosques right they want to get together in a group of maybe 100 or so or less and some people will want to do have an underground secret church that the government doesn't know about and other people within that congregation won't right so this division division within a religious institution almost always results in some kind of conflict breaking out now the severity of that is you know different you know it varies right over time um but since like i said most religions have a very strong sense of community and these internal problems could be very very severe so i guess to sort of sum up this this sentiment i would s have a very strong sense of community and these internal problems could be very very severe so i guess to sort of sum up this this sentiment i would say that we must recognize that even now even in late you know mid-december 2020 which is when we're filming this we have to recognize that some people will want to comply more or less than you and that is something that that we have we don't have a solution for we have not figured out how to approach that other than just saying that is the case right we don't have a solution but we know it's true that some people will want to comply more than you some people will want to comply less than you some people will want to comply with every single thing the government says some people will want to comply with none of the government what the government says and there's very very different reasons for doing so so we must recognize that there's different thresholds there's different lines in the sand some people don't even have a line right so when it comes to religion which is you know teaches morals and things like that we have the potential for conflict there and the next up is the concept of transportation so if you wanted to have a under a rals and things like that we have the potential for conflict there and the next up is the concept of transportation so if you wanted to have a under an underground church a secret you know house church or something like that you have to realize that we we got to look back at when this when this coveted stuff first happened right when this um when these coveted lock downs first happened i have personally driven through many military checkpoints and many police checkpoints when it comes to uh the coveted stuff so i remember having to to talk to either police officers or soldiers um say and explain to them why i was driving on the road so um we we got to recognize that the first time around when these checkpoints when active duty soldiers were manning military police checkpoints on u.s soil and no one said anything about it or very few people did right they they were effective they happened no one shut them down they just sort of everybody just kind of agreed to it right since that happened the first time it's most likely going to happen again and we're going to have these perpetual perpetually increasing levels of lockdown so just keep that in mind is that you're going to have transp again and we're going to have these perpetual perpetually increasing levels of lockdown so just keep that in mind is that you're going to have transportation issues as we come forward into the next few years honestly so that's something to think about and like i mentioned another real solution for this to to the religious tyranny of say your governor or your mayor or something says no churches can can have in-person you know meetings whatsoever well this is where we you know come back to like i mentioned at the beginning we come back to the uh the playbook of chinese christians um house churches the concept of the house church a secret church in someone's literally in someone's house or home they have become extremely popular and quite effective in concealing underground religious activity in fact the chinese government itself even if they do find a house church a lot of times they if it's just 10 to 15 people or so uh they tend to just leave it alone or or just kind of turn a blind eye because they know that there are millions of these secret house churches all over mainland china so even the chinese government understands that they can't get them all so by decentralizing by havi ese secret house churches all over mainland china so even the chinese government understands that they can't get them all so by decentralizing by having a decentralized nature of things uh having a covert church just in someone's house right it's very effective so you know that's what we're preparing to set up here in the future if things get much worse now when it comes to that you also have to remember that all aspects of the house church must be considered you've got to talk about you've got to consider things like how are people getting in and out of you know the church are they coming into the front door through the back door is there a secret entrance is there some kind of something that neighbors would notice would external surveillance betray the existence of the church in the first place you know stuff like that has to be considered quite quite significantly and then another thing that must be considered for specifically house churches um is the the stuff within the church right so although most religions on earth don't really have a whole lot of gear right they don't have a whole lot of of what government forces would most likely label as contraband right things that betr y have a whole lot of gear right they don't have a whole lot of of what government forces would most likely label as contraband right things that betray what was what's going on in a particular area so for instance if you know if you walk into a a a house somebody's residential area and they've got stacks of chairs in the corner or stacks of prayer rugs in the corner they've got you know whole bookshelves full of neatly arranged bibles you know religious artwork and thing and like you know child's crafts and things on the walls well you know what it looks gonna look like a church right there are very few churches in the world regardless of religion right regardless of what religion it is there are very few religious structures that you can walk into anywhere in the world and not know that it's a religious structure so um you know casual observers would instantly notice hey there's some religious activity going on here right so you've got to consider that a lot of these things are going to have to be stored covertly there's no bigger giveaway that house church is going down than to see you know like i mentioned stacks of bibles and shares right so this is where we get into the sort iveaway that house church is going down than to see you know like i mentioned stacks of bibles and shares right so this is where we get into the sort of dual use dual use nature of things and if you if you don't know what the nature of a dual use is it's something that can function in one way but can also function in another way for instance if you had large groups of chairs in your you know living room or something well that's going to imply that there's a large gathering of people there and there's really no way to camouflage that to make it look like it was something natural whereas if you have a bunch of you know like children's art you know on the wall you could say that it's your own kid's art right so you know you could do things like instead of having a bunch of either song books or or bibles or religious texts or whatever karan's you know instead of having them stacked up neatly on a bookshelf spread them out spread them out throughout the house right spread them out throughout multiple bookshelves so that it makes it like you just happen to collect them instead of they're there for you know people to come and use right you know everything also things like you know religio u just happen to collect them instead of they're there for you know people to come and use right you know everything also things like you know religious you know sacraments and things like that you know don't really know the terms for a lot of you know religious implements and items but if you have them in a specific area you you might want to you know move them around a little bit to make it look like it's something that you would own as a homeowner and not something that's set up as for like a church purpose right and then also we have to remember that certain religions have very specific things that could give away the presence of either religious activity or large groups of people so right now as we're filming this in you know like i said mid-december 2020 there aren't any governmental agencies or politicians cracking down on religion specifically they're not saying you can't practice your religion what they're doing is saying it's a de facto ban right they're saying that you can't have groups of more than six people in your home well that would preclude a church service right so that is something that it's not necessarily a straight-up ban of religion that's not what's happeni well that would preclude a church service right so that is something that it's not necessarily a straight-up ban of religion that's not what's happening it's a de facto ban on a lot of religion and we have to realize that a lot of different religions have different things that could betray them so for instance this is one that that came out earlier this year and we when we thought of it when it happened in september i believe it was september we were thinking hmm that's a good way to surveil people um so for those of you that aren't of the jewish faith the the holiday of sukkot or sukkot however you pronounce it sorry i'm probably butchering that it's a jewish holiday um in which very specific things have to happen so people of the jewish faith have to build what's called a temporary structure called asuka and these are very small structures you can see what they look like here on the um on the slide and there's various different ways of doing it but one of the very key key parts of the religious ceremony or holiday right is it has to be outside so if you look at a sukkah if you see a suka in someone's yard you know that they're jewish right you know the people who are you know of be outside so if you look at a sukkah if you see a suka in someone's yard you know that they're jewish right you know the people who are you know of the jewish faith live there meaning that that's a good way if you're going around you could just be driving around on the road and you could see um you know that they mark them down as being a religious um pious person right so that's something that would make it very easy for someone a casual observer to either persecute or surveil someone right likewise you know um the you know people of the islamic faith also have ramadan and ramadan is has a lot of these kind of considerations things like fasting during the holy month of ramadan during the day meaning that you know people of the islamic faith can't eat or you know or drink anything during daylight hours so from sunrise to sunset um they tend to be very weak people tend to be very tired you know it's a very it's meant to be a very you know not a whole lot of work being done and for those of you who are in the military and served overseas in a predominantly muslim nation you you know that terror or insurgent groups take advantage of ramadans particularly in afghanistan every single eas in a predominantly muslim nation you you know that terror or insurgent groups take advantage of ramadans particularly in afghanistan every single year it's like clockwork as soon as ramadan begins terror attacks spike because they know that the a a the afghan national army or the amp afghan national police or any sort of authority figure within afghanistan they're going to be practicing ramadan but the insurgents are the terrorists the members of the taliban since they are on jihad seeing as they're they're on jihad they don't need to fast they don't need to partake in the mandates of ramadan so you've got a an insurgent group which is well fed rested doesn't have to pray five times a day they you know they don't have to do all these religious things in ramadan and then you have another group over here like the afghan national army they're going to be you know very tired very weak afghanistan is a very hard country to live in just normally i can't imagine how difficult it must be to not eat or drink anything during daylight hours um so you can imagine the forced disparity there so that is something that could potentially be betraying as well and also when the sun sets there are um so you can imagine the forced disparity there so that is something that could potentially be betraying as well and also when the sun sets there are usually pretty good feasts so if i was some sort of governmental agency that wanted to catalog and go down the streets and see who's partying after hours i would definitely make note of these ramadan parties which tend to happen after sunset when when you can finally break the fast and uh it tends to be a more community affair so that's something for the islamic faith that not a whole lot of people know about and then of course you know christianity is pretty it's kind of an easy one anything that if you have you know a nativity scene in your yard as opposed to like you know some other sort of holiday thing people people know that you're probably a little bit more religious than than the average bear right so really you know any religious holiday is subject to scrutiny and surveillance because regardless of what religion it is usually the religious holidays of any particular religion involve people coming together right like i said in the beginning religion tends to be bringing people together so um you know holiday decorations that volve people coming together right like i said in the beginning religion tends to be bringing people together so um you know holiday decorations that are more religious based tend to pinpoint people from the outside outside surveillance if that's you know something that's going on and then another thing to consider is that if you have it like this particular house church in china from a few years ago there are audio visual requirements to running a church right you have to have projectors audio systems computers other technical stuff to make things you know go right you have to have you know storage for different kinds of media you know at least in christianity you know music tends to be a very very common unifying thing so if you've got a you know very if you're if you've got a group of 50 people or so in a cramped apartment that are singing singing songs well your neighbors on all sides of you will probably hear that and report it so um you know singing religious music other audible clues that there's a lot of people in one area those are dead giveaways of religious activity so it's kind of hard to get around but it's something that you have to think about if you're going to want se are dead giveaways of religious activity so it's kind of hard to get around but it's something that you have to think about if you're going to want to set up one of these house churches and then another thing is just concealment right so one thing that has been this is not necessarily unique to religious considerations this is just like what we've been doing for a long time which is using these old school wartime tactics to help internal security so like blackout curtains perfect example of this like um you know if you use blackout curtains no one knows if you are awake or if you're asleep no one knows from the outside they can't see the lights on inside your house so that's something that would be helpful as well so for instance if you live in an area where everybody goes to bed around the same time and it's you know either rural or it's like kind of a i think it's like a subdivision set up if you live in something like that where there aren't you know groups of 100 people you know coming to a single house at one in the morning you know these kind of blackout curtains might be able to help because it allows you to sort of blend in with the rest of the neighborhood when it comes u know these kind of blackout curtains might be able to help because it allows you to sort of blend in with the rest of the neighborhood when it comes to the lights being on or off another thing that might be helpful not necessarily just for religious activities but things like birthdays and other other events which in which people get together is the concept of a faraday box or a some sort of box for your cell phone right it doesn't necessarily have to be a faraday box it could be just a normal box that you keep by the front door but a good practice i don't know if it would be easy to consider to convince people to do even we hear the s2 underground have a hard time convincing people to do it but it's something that you could do so like those of us who work in the intelligence profession they know that you know no phones of any kind are allowed in a secured area and usually outside the door of that secured area there's like a little phone booth there's either little lockers or something like a little table or something for you to put your phone so that you you know put your phone you come out you come out of your office you know every couple hours check your phone and go back in t your phone so that you you know put your phone you come out you come out of your office you know every couple hours check your phone and go back in that's how it works in the intel community and this would be a great thing to implement for the civilian sector um you could even make it a fun holiday tradition where you know you force people to leave their smartphones at the door so that you could you know reconnect with friends and family without technology without anybody scrolling or you know snapchatting or anything like that but regardless it's going to be a pretty hard sell to make um but the reason that we're talking about this is because mobile technology particularly smartphones or as we like to call them spy satellites in your pocket smartphones are definitely 100 thousand percent being used to track people as as part of this coronavirus stuff so this whole um contact tracing right we like to call it contact tracing in society because um surveillance and intelligence collection sounds bad but that's exactly what it is it's tracking your exact location um so that whoever either private company or governmental forces can find you right so even though a lot of these contact t acking your exact location um so that whoever either private company or governmental forces can find you right so even though a lot of these contact tracing either apps or procedures are voluntary at the moment a lot of times they're not and and by the time we figure out that they're not voluntary it will be too late so they're not going to tell us that it's involuntary until they start enforcing it so um you know this sort of thing is something that we have to think about the sort of technical intelligence this electronic intelligence that's going on you know even though it may be a hard sell to get you know aunt sally to to to drop her her cell phone off at the door you know it's something that that might be necessary as we move forward into the future and you know years from now another thing that not a whole lot of people know about is the concept of mazent or measurement and signatures intelligence so imagine is something that not a whole lot of people even within the intelligence community know either about or they don't really know how to explain it because it's not an image it's not necessary it's not really a you know something that's like you know electronics not signs it know how to explain it because it's not an image it's not necessary it's not really a you know something that's like you know electronics not signs it's just it's measurement and signatures intelligence and one of the things that we think of when it comes to this is alpr systems or automated license plate reader systems so for lack of a better term or lack of an easier way of explaining this there are a lot of police cars public cameras security cameras and public traffic lights a lot of times are set up with these alpr systems and what they do is they scan it's a camera type system and it scans your license plate and what it does is it will tag your license plate with a geo coordinate meaning that hey camera number so and so saw this license plate heading this direction at this time and then that is put into a database so that people can you know so that law enforcement can allegedly use it to uh track stolen cars it makes it easy so that oh you know the license plate number blank was stolen you know two hours ago put it out on the system oh that license plate just popped over over here this intersection so let's go there and check it out that's what it was invented for but now we ystem oh that license plate just popped over over here this intersection so let's go there and check it out that's what it was invented for but now we're starting to see these license plate readers be used to track people in their homes or in their own neighborhoods right so all it takes is a police car driving by your house to pick up your luck because these are 360 degree cameras a lot of times drive a police car driving by your house with it with it turned on the officer inside probably has no idea that it's even happening or in a lot of cases it's just automated and no one you know knows right so that if their camera happens to see a license plate it will flash up an alert for the officer so they can say oh oh dang look this this car's stolen um so it's automatic um a lot of times but you don't want your license plate in a database right so a simple solution would be to just back into your driveways the license plate isn't facing the road that way it just completely defeats the system now i know a lot of states out there have license plates that go on the front of your vehicle as well um so i don't have a really good solution for that other than just trying to park in such a wa nse plates that go on the front of your vehicle as well um so i don't have a really good solution for that other than just trying to park in such a way that if a car were driving by with a camera on it couldn't see your license plate so that's something that we've got to consider as we move forward now you know of course i'm not saying that this is happening oh my gosh they're surveilling our neighborhoods right now no i'm not saying that we don't even have any evidence of that happening it's just limited anecdotal stuff that's not really solid intel but we are saying that it's definitely going to happen in the future so this technology exists now the potential exists now but as we move forward into a new age of i hate to use buzzwords but you know like coveted tyranny right this is something that is probably going to happen very soon and then something else which is very interesting this is another concept that is we have to start realizing what is legal and what isn't legal in terms of what is actually going to be done about it so for instance thermal imaging so a lot of you probably have heard of the 2006 case of uh really it actually goes back to i think 2001 of police officers or instance thermal imaging so a lot of you probably have heard of the 2006 case of uh really it actually goes back to i think 2001 of police officers using thermal imaging to they were just parked on the street and they were using the thermal imaging to view to look at this guy's house to determine that he would he had like a a marijuana grow going on because the marijuana grow lights apparently get very very hot so the police looked through their thermal imaging system saw that his house was hot used that to get a search warrant and they busted him for marijuana well he fired he filed a fourth amendment complaint and went all the way to the supreme court the supreme court says yep law enforcement do not have the ability to using thermal imaging to search a place from the street is a violation of the fourth amendment you have to get a warrant first and then you can use your thermal imaging so that was back in 2006. but here's the deal just because the supreme court rules on something does not mean that something very very similar is already being infringed upon by a lower court so even though the supreme court ruled that thermal imaging is a blatant violation of the fourth amendme already being infringed upon by a lower court so even though the supreme court ruled that thermal imaging is a blatant violation of the fourth amendment we have things like stingray devices so yeah like i said the supreme court ruled that the authorities scanning their home with infrared camera without a warrant constituted an unreasonable search and seizure bar search by the barred by the fourth amendment so moving forward to 2014 in tacoma washington um one of the very interesting things that happened was that from 2009 to 2014 um the county of you know tacoma their superior court judges unknowingly signed more than 170 orders the tacoma police and other law enforcement agencies say authorize them to use a device that allows investigators to track a suspect cell phone but also sweep cell phone data from innocent people nearby so here's the deal you've got in 2001 or really 2006 when the supreme court ruled on a 2006 supreme court says you can't use thermal devices without a warrant because that is a violation of a fourth amendment fast forward to 2014 after that ruling you've got tacoma police department lying to judges and telling them that they're not that they're signing a war ast forward to 2014 after that ruling you've got tacoma police department lying to judges and telling them that they're not that they're signing a warrant for this but really it's for blanket surveillance and things like that so yeah these judges signed more than 170 orders for the tacoma police department but here's the kicker they did not know that they were signing these orders and also all 22 of these superior court judges first learned of the police department's cell phone site simulator the stingray they only learned what they signed the warrant for because the news media caught on to it so that's a huge thing as well so we need to stop looking at things from like oh the supreme court said this but you know so you can't do that well guess what you know you change the situation slightly oh it's not a thermal imaging device it's an electronic surveillance device instead well now that particular case has to go all the way to the supreme court as well so and it's unlikely to do so so um that's what we wanted to mention is that there are other systems out there just because the law says xyz does not mean that our nation's law enforcement will follow xyz it means that you know some are other systems out there just because the law says xyz does not mean that our nation's law enforcement will follow xyz it means that you know some you know it provides opportunity for doing good but not necessarily providing the infrastructure for it so that's what we wanted to mention as well so sort of wrapping up this very meandering and kind of random episode in which we try to speak very delicately about these sort of issues we wanted to say that we need to start being proactive and not reactive we we need to start thinking ahead instead of trying to play catch-up and really that's going to have to happen from each individual person it's going to have to be each individual church i do know that you know here at the usg underground project we may or may not be setting up you know places for these these churches right that might us you know start popping up so we need to start thinking about this sort of thing i i you know i understand that the nature of religion itself is that a lot of people would really rather you know not be around if they can't practice their religion and you know that's a person's choice but what we're trying to do is walk that line between practicing e around if they can't practice their religion and you know that's a person's choice but what we're trying to do is walk that line between practicing your religion in the most practical way possible also being as safe as possible about it so that's what we wanted to talk about today you know i'm sorry this is kind of once again like a very random sort of episode but it's kind of a hard topic to talk about it really is it's very difficult to talk about a lot of this stuff so yeah that's all we've got for this episode uh remember to check out our other content we have all kinds of stuff on youtube we've got videos on how to hide people in your home if if it comes to that we've got podcasts talking about it as well we've got a quite successful mini series of many hours of content on how to avoid some of this electronic surveillance and how how you can basically be 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